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he was more aggressive nan obama was. in in situation, especially, president obama should have lifted the face up and given him face time, but he chose to -- gerri: what about the audience though. >> he did. he spoke into the camera. you look into a camera, and you talk to them. he did that. he just didn't do it enough. gerri: lrpt. republican national committee came out with this, what they call the smirk. i want to show it to you. this is fascinating. listen to this. we're having a few issues. >> i'll talk about it. i know what you're talking about. it's interesting that they would call that the smirk because romney -- gerri: right there. >> yes, romney's the one famous for the smirk. it's like they are trying to turn the tails saying, look what obama did now. he does smirk, but his smirk is a tightening of the mouth, his way of saying i don't agree with you, and roleny keeps that smirk on the face all the time. both need to work on the neutral expression. that means what do i look like when the other person is speaking
he was more aggressive nan obama was. in in situation, especially, president obama should have lifted the face up and given him face time, but he chose to -- gerri: what about the audience though. >> he did. he spoke into the camera. you look into a camera, and you talk to them. he did that. he just didn't do it enough. gerri: lrpt. republican national committee came out with this, what they call the smirk. i want to show it to you. this is fascinating. listen to this. we're having a few...
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in town with obama the whether obama should have dealt with him. it was one of the mono and obama fell short. >> the result is historical unique. in the 50 years of presidential debates, and nothing there has ever been a debate where there was such a decisive win in an absence of gaff. if you have something like four with eastern europe, or others along the way, it is decisive. it is usually a muddled outcome, or just one bad moment, like i knew jack kennedy. there was not a sound bite in this. one other point, the moderator. i know jim lehrer has taken a lot of abuse because he lost control of the debate. we want the moderate enough to be in control. why should be in control of the debate? the debate ought to be about the participants. if the moderator ever in the future says, we have got to stop this and move on, i would like to hear one candidate say, why? besides we have to have six segments instead of five. >> the criticism of jim lehrer is -- from time to time, obama would look at him saying, help me, jim. mitt is not playing fair. >> in that
in town with obama the whether obama should have dealt with him. it was one of the mono and obama fell short. >> the result is historical unique. in the 50 years of presidential debates, and nothing there has ever been a debate where there was such a decisive win in an absence of gaff. if you have something like four with eastern europe, or others along the way, it is decisive. it is usually a muddled outcome, or just one bad moment, like i knew jack kennedy. there was not a sound bite in...
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obama is not a good debater. it is not that obama was off his game. that is his game. he does not have a prompter, he is not good. you see this in press conferences, where he does not have a prompter. he had never been good at press conferences. he rambles, the press is always unimpressed with him. this was a situation where yet more control of the debate, because he picks the questionnaire, and he can decide how long he wants to take for the answer. his only advantage in the next debate will be this. it will be in a town hall. he has got more ability to connect with an audience than romney. he will have an advantage in the second debate that he did not have been the first. >> would you rather be good or lucky? 7.8% unemployment rate. that is pretty good news. >> unless you look at the actual numbers. if you look at those with new jobs, about 114,000. you have to have 150,000 to stay at the same rate. what has been happening is you have people leaving the work force, retiring, or read a wait a minute, nina -- or when you become chronically unemployed, over the one year
obama is not a good debater. it is not that obama was off his game. that is his game. he does not have a prompter, he is not good. you see this in press conferences, where he does not have a prompter. he had never been good at press conferences. he rambles, the press is always unimpressed with him. this was a situation where yet more control of the debate, because he picks the questionnaire, and he can decide how long he wants to take for the answer. his only advantage in the next debate will...
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obama by two, 49%/47%. "the new york times" this weekend reported on the two campaigns' ongoing debate preps. here is what they said about romney's prep. quote, mr. romney's team has concluded that the debates are about creating moments and has equipped him with a series of zingers he's memorized and has been practicing on aides since august. bob shrum, you have been on that particular role, preparing candidates for debate. what do you make of romney, a rather stiff customer to begin with, coming off as sort of a henny youngman or whatever, some sort of a don rickles with some zingers. i don't think of him as a zinger kind of guy where obama is expected to be left helpless. what do you make of that strategy? >> first of all, if you had it, you wouldn't announce it. it's kind of stupid. >> why are they leaking it? >> i don't know. because they're trying to hold onto their people, they're undisciplined, i have no idea. number two, zingers don't exist in a vacuum. it's not just coming up with some funny lines.
obama by two, 49%/47%. "the new york times" this weekend reported on the two campaigns' ongoing debate preps. here is what they said about romney's prep. quote, mr. romney's team has concluded that the debates are about creating moments and has equipped him with a series of zingers he's memorized and has been practicing on aides since august. bob shrum, you have been on that particular role, preparing candidates for debate. what do you make of romney, a rather stiff customer to begin...
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joining it's retrievable by obama. i don't think you get a second chance to make a first impression. and i think that romney really scored. i thought when he explained to people that tax cut on the rich would not be on the rich, it was a tax increase on the rich, it was a tax increase on small business employers and they employ 50% of the american workforce. by raising their taxes, you are undermining their ability to create be jos. that was brilliant. i thought that really, he took away, all kinds of arguments from obama. while obama can wait until the performance wears off and people forget how stumbling and hesitant and detached he was, what will remain is the ground that he ceded to romney. >> greta: i thought it was significant that 67 million people watched this, the largest number since i think 1992. chfts a measurement to -- which was a measurement to me of the enthusiasm for the election. i don't know which way it will fall. but it showed interest by the country. >> i think the same reason that they watched it
joining it's retrievable by obama. i don't think you get a second chance to make a first impression. and i think that romney really scored. i thought when he explained to people that tax cut on the rich would not be on the rich, it was a tax increase on the rich, it was a tax increase on small business employers and they employ 50% of the american workforce. by raising their taxes, you are undermining their ability to create be jos. that was brilliant. i thought that really, he took away, all...
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at obama when obama was talking to him, much better than when obama was talking and looking down, like he was being lectured. i think we have to talk about the debate and the debate rules and the moderator. you know, the idea -- they were very excited, the debate commissioned about the 15-minute pods to allow more exchange. but it allowed more, longer speeches and talking points. jim lehrer, a man for whom i have tremendous esteem, seemed to lose control of the debate, occasionally. he seemed to throw something out there to keep the conversation going, sometimes it seemed to be helping obama, like saying, you are for a balanced approach of tax cuts and spending -- tax increases and spending cuts, and that really seemed to lose some control. as far as the issues were concerned, there were a couple of -- i can't say whoppers, but there were a couple of points. one was medicare. and on that issue, romney was right. when he said that $716 billion in cuts was going to affect benefits, the fact is, it would affect benefits, the actuary says, let me see if i can find tin practice, providers c
at obama when obama was talking to him, much better than when obama was talking and looking down, like he was being lectured. i think we have to talk about the debate and the debate rules and the moderator. you know, the idea -- they were very excited, the debate commissioned about the 15-minute pods to allow more exchange. but it allowed more, longer speeches and talking points. jim lehrer, a man for whom i have tremendous esteem, seemed to lose control of the debate, occasionally. he seemed...
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obama and ann romney. [applause] one of the great privileges of working for the commission on presidential debates is to work with jim lehrer. this is the 12th time he will moderate a debate. i'd like to introduce him now. [applause] >> let me be the very last to welcome you to this very important event. show of hands -- have many of you have been in this hall before? you know the rules. absolute silence. for those of you who watched on television, you know the rules are different for these events. in the early days when it restarted addressing the audience of a hall, i would say, ok, you make noise. hiss and boo and applaud and cheer. i will make you stand up and camille you in front of the whole world. i do not do that anymore. -- and humiliate you in front of the whole world. i do not do that anymore. you know the drill. you know how important this event is. it is important because it is about millions of people watching this event tonight. they are watching to make a decision on the most important deci
obama and ann romney. [applause] one of the great privileges of working for the commission on presidential debates is to work with jim lehrer. this is the 12th time he will moderate a debate. i'd like to introduce him now. [applause] >> let me be the very last to welcome you to this very important event. show of hands -- have many of you have been in this hall before? you know the rules. absolute silence. for those of you who watched on television, you know the rules are different for...
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democrats insist it is not president obama's fault. president obama's fault. who gets the blame for [ male announcer ] at scottrade, you won't just find us online, you'll also find us in person, with dedicated support teams at over 500 branches nationwide. so when you call or visit, you can ask for a name you know. because personal service starts with a real person. [ rodger ] at scottrade, seven dollar trades are just the start. our support teams are nearby, ready to help. it's no wonder so many investors are saying... [ all ] i'm with scottrade. it's no wonder so many investors are saying... ♪ atmix of energies.ve the world needs a broader that's why we're supplying natural gas to generate cleaner electricity... that has around 50% fewer co2 emissions than coal. and it's also why, with our partner in brazil, shell is producing ethanol - a biofuel made from renewable sugarcane. >>a minute, mom! let's broaden the world's energy mix. let's go. droid does. and does it launch apps by voice while learning your voice ? launch cab4me. droid does. keep left at the
democrats insist it is not president obama's fault. president obama's fault. who gets the blame for [ male announcer ] at scottrade, you won't just find us online, you'll also find us in person, with dedicated support teams at over 500 branches nationwide. so when you call or visit, you can ask for a name you know. because personal service starts with a real person. [ rodger ] at scottrade, seven dollar trades are just the start. our support teams are nearby, ready to help. it's no wonder so...
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barack obama has got to have a completely different air about him. he's got to be a combatant, not a visitor. >> reporter: president obama and mr. romney actually have two debates remaining. one on october 16th on long island, and the last one six days later in florida. there's also one vice presidential debate a week from tonight in kentucky. derek. >> we'll be watching them all. cbs news has learned that investigators are looking into the possibility that a border patrol agent killed earlier this week died from friendly fire. nicholas ivie and two other agents came under attack just north of the border near birkz sbee, arizona. this word comes from mexican police as they've arrested two people. >>> d.c. police confirm they're investigating allegations that a guard sexually assaulted an inmate. sources tell wtop radio the allegations are that a guard removed an inmate from his cell, took him to an area where there are no security cameras and assaulted him. those sources also say a second guard witnessed the assault but did not report it. >>> tonight
barack obama has got to have a completely different air about him. he's got to be a combatant, not a visitor. >> reporter: president obama and mr. romney actually have two debates remaining. one on october 16th on long island, and the last one six days later in florida. there's also one vice presidential debate a week from tonight in kentucky. derek. >> we'll be watching them all. cbs news has learned that investigators are looking into the possibility that a border patrol agent...
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but the fact that i had to point that out on the air tonight is an illustration of what barack obama didn't do. the president frankly should have been politely in his face, saying that's not accurate, just like the presentation about romney's health care program. the president should have merely said the governor is being a hypocrite. he did this in massachusetts. and the president frankly didn't do that tonight. i think that's the reason that people said that they gave the nod to mitt romney tonight. in the end, we've seen how people are going to vote in november. we've got two more debates to do. i think you'll see a different barack obama in two weeks. >> joe is going to be with us next week for the vice presidential debate, giving us analysis then. >> thanks so much. >>> you know, it would take hours for a full debate fact check, so we're just going to look at two, courtesy of the associated press. president obama suggested that the united states will save money by winding down the wars in iraq and afghanistan. the truth? the wars were funded with borrowed money, so ending them o
but the fact that i had to point that out on the air tonight is an illustration of what barack obama didn't do. the president frankly should have been politely in his face, saying that's not accurate, just like the presentation about romney's health care program. the president should have merely said the governor is being a hypocrite. he did this in massachusetts. and the president frankly didn't do that tonight. i think that's the reason that people said that they gave the nod to mitt romney...
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if obama care is repealed. how would you replace it? >> actually it's a lengthy description but, number one, preexisting conditions are covered under my plan. number two, young people are able to stay on their family plan. >> what a machine, the etch a sketch. but one question for governor romney -- h how do you draw battle lines if they're all going to be dotted? where do you stand? >> i can't figure it out. >> well, you know walls of obfuscation, my friend. the question is, can romney make this pivot, which seem to be towards the center at this point in the game, and win over independent voters? >> look, there are very few really big moments in campaign. last night was one of those moments. there are a lot of people who have not been watching as much tape as your producers apparently have. give romney his due. he had a very compelling night. he crisply delivered his points. he was conversational. he had command of the policy and the facts. and it's up to president obama now to put him to where his record and
if obama care is repealed. how would you replace it? >> actually it's a lengthy description but, number one, preexisting conditions are covered under my plan. number two, young people are able to stay on their family plan. >> what a machine, the etch a sketch. but one question for governor romney -- h how do you draw battle lines if they're all going to be dotted? where do you stand? >> i can't figure it out. >> well, you know walls of obfuscation, my friend. the...
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what's the obama white house saying about all of this? >> they're effectively saying that the economy, while it's still weak, is showing signs that the president's policies are working, that his agenda is finally getting traction in the economy. here's what the president had to say. >> there are too many middle class families that are still struggling to pay the bills. they were struggling long before the crisis hit. but today's news certainly is not an excuse to try and talk down the economy to score a few political points. it's a reminder that this country has come too far to turn back now. >> that was friday right after the jobs numbers came out. i'll point out two meaningful things about those jobs numbers. one, you recall when his stimulus plan came out somebody in his administration said with the stimulus plan. it was never a promise, a projection. symbolically it's meaningful this is now below 8%. also now it's fallen for the first time not because fewer people are looking for jobs. actually, the number of people looking for jobs r
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we'll hear from michelle obama. doesn't see eye to eye with ann romney about the rigors of campaigning, details on that ahead. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] at&t. the nation's largest 4g network. now covering 3000 more 4g cities and towns than verizon. at&t. rethink possible. >>> the debate hall at the university of denver. debate night in america, anticipation building at the site of tonight's face-off. building also by the way here at the cnn election center. we'll hear shortly from the first lady of the united states, michelle obama. stand by for that. we're also not that far away from tonight's debate. take a look at the clock. you see what's going on. when president obama and governor romney appear on stage together, at the university of denver, jim lehrer of pbs will be the moderator for what could be potentially the most indepth and lively debates in memory. we'll zero in on domestic policy with a new format that allows for more interaction between the two candidates and more time to discuss a single top
we'll hear from michelle obama. doesn't see eye to eye with ann romney about the rigors of campaigning, details on that ahead. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] at&t. the nation's largest 4g network. now covering 3000 more 4g cities and towns than verizon. at&t. rethink possible. >>> the debate hall at the university of denver. debate night in america, anticipation building at the site of tonight's face-off. building also by the way here at the cnn election center. we'll hear...
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obama is going to say that he has made a lot of progress bute basically going to ask for mor. time to finish the job. t the romney camp says this is where their guy is going to be tough on obama's record in the economy over the last four years and he will say barack obama made a lot of promises in 2008 and hasn't kept the promises. they don't worry about their are guy being likeable and say the key is to stay on offense. the other battle over the plans for the next four years where o obama will be tough on romney and say this is a guy who wants to give tax cuts to the wealthc and to voucherrize medicare. romney will say he is the defender of the middle class. t both sides say this could get heated tonight. >> chris, thank you. >> good evening. >> we go to jim lehrer of pbs moderating this debate. >> i'm jim lehrer and welcome you to the first of the 2012l presidential debates between president barack obama the democratic nominee and former, massachusetts governor mitt romney the republican nominee. this debate and the next three, two presidential, one vice presidential, are sp
obama is going to say that he has made a lot of progress bute basically going to ask for mor. time to finish the job. t the romney camp says this is where their guy is going to be tough on obama's record in the economy over the last four years and he will say barack obama made a lot of promises in 2008 and hasn't kept the promises. they don't worry about their are guy being likeable and say the key is to stay on offense. the other battle over the plans for the next four years where o obama will...
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people assume that obama will be better. so that may mean he doesn't have to do as well as all that to surprise people and say this guy is really up to the job. but the pressure is really on romney to change the direction of this race and to, you know, let people know it's not necessarily over. that can be done in various debates. but this first one is going to form the most impressions. >> john harwood says only twice have these televised debates seemed to shift the outcome of the race. in 2004 george w. bush went up against al gore. in gore's case, a strategist thought he lost that debate in the spin room. so i wonder, matt, how much of this is decided by what the candidates actually say? and how much by the pundits the day after? >> i give the american people some credit. i think they can listen and watch. and most evidence has shown that people start paying attention maybe around the conventions. they pay a lot of attention in the debates as well. what romney has to do is to get people who don't think obama has earned a
people assume that obama will be better. so that may mean he doesn't have to do as well as all that to surprise people and say this guy is really up to the job. but the pressure is really on romney to change the direction of this race and to, you know, let people know it's not necessarily over. that can be done in various debates. but this first one is going to form the most impressions. >> john harwood says only twice have these televised debates seemed to shift the outcome of the race....
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obama had the facts and didn't use them, but this is what obama does. in 2008 when he ran against hillary clinton, people said he wasn't fighting hard enough and against john mccain and in the health care debate, he wasn't fighting hard enough. he won all the fights. >> what's interesting, our first team and others brought up the comparison of the incumbent curse. george w. bush, ronald reagan in '84, george h.w. bush in '92, the president didn't seem to be on his game. mitt romney made a surprise appearance to a cpac event in denver still courting the conservatives but say if you know people that voted for president obama, tell them to come on over to our side. that's ironic because i don't imagine he knows many conservative republicans who voted for president obama the last time or plan to this time. nevertheless, you're no fan of governor romney. did you become a fan last night as a conservative who has doubted his credibility from the minute he entered this race? >> well, i think my credentials as a non-romney show are pretty well secured. i have go
obama had the facts and didn't use them, but this is what obama does. in 2008 when he ran against hillary clinton, people said he wasn't fighting hard enough and against john mccain and in the health care debate, he wasn't fighting hard enough. he won all the fights. >> what's interesting, our first team and others brought up the comparison of the incumbent curse. george w. bush, ronald reagan in '84, george h.w. bush in '92, the president didn't seem to be on his game. mitt romney made a...
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effective for president obama. he's used spanish-speaking volunteers talking about the issues, talking to other people in the community about that. just kind of one-to-one thing that really helps build trust in the hispanic community. this is someone we can trust. >> woodruff: greg allen joining us with a look at what both campaigns are doing to reach hispanic voters. thanks very much. >> my pleasure. >> ifill: tune in tomorrow night for special pbs' coverage of the first presidential debate, moderated by jim lehrer. mark shields and david brooks will join judy and me for real time analysis at 9:00 p.m. eastern time. but our coverage begins at noon online, when we begin live stream coverage with interviews on policy, a politics preview and a live blog throughout the debate itself. the conversation continues after the debate ends at a google-plus hangout with undecided battleground state voters. >> woodruff: there are new developments today in the benghazi consulate attack as congressional committee leaders turn up
effective for president obama. he's used spanish-speaking volunteers talking about the issues, talking to other people in the community about that. just kind of one-to-one thing that really helps build trust in the hispanic community. this is someone we can trust. >> woodruff: greg allen joining us with a look at what both campaigns are doing to reach hispanic voters. thanks very much. >> my pleasure. >> ifill: tune in tomorrow night for special pbs' coverage of the first...
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and ironically if you repeal obama care, and i've become fond of this terms, obama care. if you repeal it, what happens, those seniors will pay $600 more in prescription care, will have to pay copays for basic checkups that will keep them healthier and the primary beneficiary of that repeal are insurance companies that are estimated to gain billions of dollars back when they aren't making seniors any healthier, and i don't think that's the right approach when it comes to making sure that medicare is stronger over the long term. >> we'll talk about -- specifically about health care in a moment. do you support the voucher system, governor? >> what i support is no change for current retirees and near retirees to medicare and the president supports taking $716 million out of that program. that's number one. number two, for people coming aalong that are young. what i do to make sure we have medicare in place for them. is allow them to choose the current medicare program or a private plan, their choice. and they'll have at least two plans that will be entirely at no cost to the
and ironically if you repeal obama care, and i've become fond of this terms, obama care. if you repeal it, what happens, those seniors will pay $600 more in prescription care, will have to pay copays for basic checkups that will keep them healthier and the primary beneficiary of that repeal are insurance companies that are estimated to gain billions of dollars back when they aren't making seniors any healthier, and i don't think that's the right approach when it comes to making sure that...
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>> obama: i don't. >> romney: again, that's for future people -- >> obama: i understand. so if you are 54 or 55 you might want to listen because this will affect you. the idea which was originally presented by congressman ryan your running mate is that we would give a voucher to seniors, and they could go out in the private marketplace and buy their own health insurance. the problem is that because the voucher wouldn't necessarily keep up with health care inflation it was estimated that this would cost the average senior about $6,000 a year. now, in fairness what governor romney has now said is he'll maintain traditional medicare alongside of it. but what happens is those insurance companies are pretty clever at figuring out who are the younger and healthier seniors, they recruit them and every health care economist who looks at it says over time what happen will happen is the traditional medicare system will collapse. and then you have folks like my grandmother at the mercy of the private insurance system when they are most in need of decent health care. so i don't think
>> obama: i don't. >> romney: again, that's for future people -- >> obama: i understand. so if you are 54 or 55 you might want to listen because this will affect you. the idea which was originally presented by congressman ryan your running mate is that we would give a voucher to seniors, and they could go out in the private marketplace and buy their own health insurance. the problem is that because the voucher wouldn't necessarily keep up with health care inflation it was...
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here for the 2008 obama-mccain it be. but it doesn't always work. >> the debate in 2004 between john kerry and george w. bush i, i literally forgot whether or not-- uh-oh, is this a new question or is this a follow-up question? my mind just went blank. and i had to make a decision. and i just guessed right. >> brown: the book highlights so-called major moments in debate history, the ones that come to define an dispnt sometimes ape candidate. george h.w. bush looking at his watch in 1992. >>Ñi thereçóñr guagain. >> brown: those zingers from ronald reagan that wounded jimmy cartener 1980. in the documentary "debating our destiny" jim went back to talk to candidates about their experience of the debates and had the chance to ask whether they prepared famous lines ahead of time. >> lehrer: i asked ronald reagan about, "there you go again," and a couple of others. "no, no, it just came to me." >> no it just seemed to be the thing to say and what he was saying up there. >> brown: did you believe him? >> lehrer: i don't know
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obama's far worse. >> i think that's exactly right. the romney we have all seen -- even those of us who support him, will agree he's made some steps andma made inelegant statements and things that have contributed to an impression that he had to vanquish tonight. that's one thing he did, he had to vanquish the idea that he is out of touch. a be november issue, on the tax cuts and medicare and these things, talking about... again, it's hard to see how he could have done a bettered job. there was no defining moment there such as there guagain that will be repeated, i believe. but other than that, that was one of the finest deby reaction. stay tuned, bret and geeingyn will be right back in just a moment. >> governor, what about simpson-bowles, do you support it? >> the president should have grabbed that -- >> flow, i mean, do you support simpson-bowles? >> i have my own plan. but in my view, the president should have grabbed. it if you want adjustment, take it, make adjustments, to it -- [overlapping dialogue] >> you have been president f
obama's far worse. >> i think that's exactly right. the romney we have all seen -- even those of us who support him, will agree he's made some steps andma made inelegant statements and things that have contributed to an impression that he had to vanquish tonight. that's one thing he did, he had to vanquish the idea that he is out of touch. a be november issue, on the tax cuts and medicare and these things, talking about... again, it's hard to see how he could have done a bettered job....
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if you want to talk about specifics, look at what president obama said. >> talk about mr. romney. if you're going to talk about the president, we will have to close the discussion now, but if you're -- >> this is a martin game here, of course. let's not beat up on the president -- >> we're just talking about mr. romney. >> the fact of the matter is what i said at the outseth still stands. i think it's about a vision of where you want to take the country and how you want to move forward. as it relates to his tax plan, he has said very clearly that, a, he wants to cut certain tax loopholes, b, he wants to keep the bush era tax cut rates in place, and c, we need to make sure we can work with congress in a bipartisan fashion to get it done. i think that's very fair, i think it's a question that will be asked of him tomorrow by jim lehrer. >> it's also been deemed as mathematically impossible. thank you. as the candidates gear up, we are headed to denver. we will broadcast live from the university of denver, so be sure to tune in tomorrow, 4:00 p.m. eastern. >>> next, the 47 and bain.
if you want to talk about specifics, look at what president obama said. >> talk about mr. romney. if you're going to talk about the president, we will have to close the discussion now, but if you're -- >> this is a martin game here, of course. let's not beat up on the president -- >> we're just talking about mr. romney. >> the fact of the matter is what i said at the outseth still stands. i think it's about a vision of where you want to take the country and how you want...